Egy normális ember már elgondolkodott volna a helyedben, hogy talán mégse az a sok autós a hibás, aki szembe jön veled az autópályán, hanem te választottál rossz felhajtót.

1.) Steretttel kösznöm meg válaszát.Ám hiszi-nemhiszi az:
2.) "Itt a fórumon itt, a fórumon elharapódzott hangnem.." ENGEM IS BÁNT ÉS SÉRT. Nagyon sért.
3.) Én azonban--valóban--IGAZ EZ, NEM TŰRÖM EL ha velem úgy beszélnek, ahogy újabban itt is szokás, VERBÁLISAN VISSZAÜTÖK. Nagyot, sőt, nagyobbat ütök vissza--no, ez igaz.Ez talán valóbba nem helyes.
4.) Viszont "AZ", hogy csak velem szemben kofogásolja valaki, bárki is, a ronda hangnemet--amely valóban ronda--azzal-azokkal szemben NEM(!), akik engem bántanak nem, NO, "AZ" NEM MEGY!
5.) Mert velem szemben ITT majdhogynem EGYSÉGFRONT van,jelesül: A DURVASÁGBAN ÉS BÁNTÁSBEN, már majdnem egy év óta--a hülyék egységfrontja persze--s csak kevesen, pl. Gyöngy vagy Vanna7 beszélnek velem "normálisan", meg talán "kutató" és persze--eddig Ön is--kedves "Békás.."
6.) Hiszen engem állandóan bántanak a nagybetűimért meg hogy senkivel nem vagyok tegezőviszonyban.Engem viszont majd' mindenki "tegezni" merészel, pedig a' priori én mindenkihez tisztelettel, tehát ÖNÖZVE szólok.
7.) Persze a "netes konvenciókra" hivatkoznak, amit én sehol, semmikor NEM FOGADOK és nem fogadtam el! Ám nem értem azt, hogyha nem fogadom el az itteni ú.n. "szokásokat", akkor már jogos velem úgy beszélni, mint egy darab ronggyal? S ha megvédem magam az ocsmány bántásokkal szemben--amit a jövőben is mindig megteszek(!)majd--akkor MÉG ÉN VAGYOK AZ, aki csúnyán beszél? NEM! Ez NEM IGAZ--mármint az, hogy én a' prori ocsmányul beszéltem volna várkivel is! Mondom: a' prori, tehát kezdeményezőleg.
8.) Eredendően senkivel nem beszélek csúnyán ,s nem is beszéltem soha, legföljebb KÖVETKEZMÉNYKÉNT.Ám lehet, "azt" sem kéne, de ennyire azért nem vagyok erős.
Keresztényi szerettel üdvözli:
keresztkém

"Mese takonyhabbal...."

Én ÚGY TUDOM(!), hogy a drága Árva Vince atya élete utolsó 3 évét--imában és vezeklésben--Csiksomlyón élte, ahonnan néha, ezért-azért "kimozdult", pédául Bp.-re, Marosvásárhelyre, Kolozsvárra.
De! TEGYÜK FEL, HOGY ESETLEG HIBÁSAN VAGY PONTATLANÚL TUDOM!Vagy. Nem minden részletében teljesen valósághűen--esetleg--föltéve DE MEG NEM(!) ENGEDVE--rosszul ismerem Urunkhoz távozásának minden részletét, netán! Kérdésem. MIÉRT BŰNÖM EZ, MÉG HA--ESETLEG, NETÁN-- "IGY" IS LENNE? Olyannyira hogy "EZÉRT" az esetleges hibás ismeretért, kigúnyoljanak lealázzanak becsméreljenek, sértegessenek?
Amit ráadásul HELYESLNI TETSZIK! Ezt nem értem.
Mindezt keresztény-katolikus szeretettel kérdezem, mert tényleg NEM ÉRTEM.
Keresztényi szeretettel:
keresztkém

"... 2008. december 15-én, hajnali két órakor Budapesten, az Országos Baleseti Kórházban elhunyt Árva Vince atya pálos szerzetes..."

"A Magyarok Világszövetsége és a Fráter György Alapítvány megrendülten tudatja, hogy 2008. december 15-én, hajnali két órakor Budapesten, az Országos Baleseti Kórházban elhunyt Árva Vince atya pálos szerzetes...
...Árva Vince atya közel egy hónappal ezelőtt, Csíksomlyón tartózkodva a fürdőszobában megcsúszott és elesett, nyakcsigolyatörést szenvedve. Bár három héttel ezelőtt sikeres, akkor életmentőnek tűnő műtétet hajtottak végre rajta Marosvásárhelyen, tüdejének működése nem indult újra, és ezért mesterséges lélegeztetésre szorult. Pár nappal korábban átszállították Budapestre, de állapota fokozatosan romlott, visszafordíthatatlanná vált." http://szentkoronaradio.com/hit-vallas/2008_12_15_elhunyt-arva-vince-palos-szerzetes

Bakk István: Pálosok Amerika földjén avagy az Újvilági küldetéses szolgálat
http://jozsef-kutasi.de/blogger/palospassiohu.pdf
http://kutasi.blogspot.com/2007/12/istvn-bakk-pauline-fathers-in-americas.html

„Vezér Ferenc újratemetési szertartására április 30-án, hétfőn kerül sor a petőfiszállás-pálosszentkúti kegyhelyen.

Márfi Gyula katolikus érsek levelének angol fordítását is elolvashatják honlapunkon
Létrehozás: 2012. március 06.,
David Baer eljuttatta szerkesztőségünknek Márfi Gyula veszprémi katolikus érsek válaszlevelének angol fordítását. Az alábbiakban ezt olvashatják.
Dear Professor,
Let me express my gratitude to you for keeping updated on our country's situation. At the same time I cannot withhold my critical observations, which I will try to communicate honestly.
My basic objection is that your letter reflects a one-sided and superficial knowledge of both the Hungarian and European situations, and it completely ignores the broader connections.
1. Let’s begin with the question of religious freedom. As a Catholic Bishop I am delighted by the fact that a professor at a Lutheran university cites the Second Vatican Council’s declaration Dignitatis Humanae in connection with freedom of conscience and religion, but I fail to understand how the Basic Law to which you object offends the freedom of conscience and religion. Today in Hungary everyone practices any religion they want, both individually and as a community. The recognition and registration of specific churches has significance only in relation to receiving material support from the state. Here, understandably, the Hungarian state favors those communities which have contributed significantly to the survival of our country during our difficult history, and those communities whose activity have considerable social value, such as maintaining schools and health institutions, or conducting charitable activities.
You also object that such registration of churches is not performed by a court, but now by the Parliament. From this it’s clear that you don't know enough about the Hungarian situation. To this very day numerous people work in the independent Hungarian justice system who, during the communist system, were the dedicated servants of the party-state dictatorship and who took part in so-called show trials against the church (a show trial is a legal procedure in which everything happens opposite to how things happen in a lawful trial; the verdict is first “conceived,” then the “testimony of witnesses” is prepared to align with the verdict, and the “evidence” is produced).
Furthermore, in the past 20 years this court has demonstrated convincingly that it is unsuitable for registering churches. More than 300 “churches” were registered, the majority of which did meet even the most minimal criteria. I have a copy of the 2007 church directory. I found four “churches” on the list that had their registered address in the same house (in a village), and three of them even had the same person as their official representative. Churches gained recognition which by their very name would bring a smile to the face of a serious believer (of any religion); for example, “Cute Pilgrims from A to Z” or “the Hungarian Witch Association” or the “Church of Gaiety”.
To appreciate the situation we have to realize that a good number of the registered communities conducted no religious activities whatsoever. They applied for the registration so they could receive state subsidies for churches as private businesses –well beyond the benefits that private businesses receive. In large part this explains why we had three Adventist churches, three Methodist churches, six Jewish churches and no less than thirteen (!) Buddhist churches registered. (To anyone who knows the large branches of Buddhism – Hinjana, Mahayana, Vajrayana, that is, Tibetian, this would be very suspicious. I talked with the Lama of Nepal and he also thought thirteen was ridiculous).
Concerning the churches you mentioned explicitly, I can say the following: These churches have no basis in Hungary. In spite of this, just among Methodists three were registered, as I have mentioned. It's not easy to decide if all three were really religious communities or only so-called business churches. The Methodist pastor Gábor Iványi is well known among us, but more as a loud mouthed politician than as a preacher. Indeed, his community (they go by the name Hungarian Evangelical Community of Brethren) is not recognized by the World Methodist Church. Of Anglicans we find only one church, which is listed under the name of Saint Margaret's Anglican/Episcopal Church in the old record book. Judging by their name it belongs to the catholic-friendly high church branch. Their pastor lives in Dunakeszi where there is no Anglican community. The pastor primarily ministers to the staff of the British Embassy in Budapest.
As I write these lines news has arrived that yesterday, February 17, the Hungarian Parliament has recognized another 17 churches, among them the Hungarian Methodist Church and the aforementioned Anglican Church. Thus altogether there are today 31 recognized churches in Hungary. I’d be grateful to you Professor, should you find another country in Europe which supports more religious communities than we do. Should you not find any such country, then I’d ask that in the future you direct your criticism to England, the Scandinavian countries, Bulgaria or Romania, because in these countries the Anglican, Lutheran and the Orthodox Churches still enjoy to this day the status of state churches. (In Romania, the Greek Catholic Dioceses in Romania have yet to receive back in full measure the property taken from them during the Ceausescu regime and given to the Romanian Orthodox Church)
2. My second objection to your letter concerns the part in which you criticize the European character of the Hungarian government. The way I see it, your knowledge of Europe is also one-sided and deficient. The Europe you hold up in your letter is one which has not existed since the time of Konrad Adenauer, Robert Schuman, Alcide De Gasperi and Jean Monnet.
Contemporary Europe is divided not only along economic lines, but also ideologically. There is still a hidden Christian Europe, but there is also a much louder, sharply anti-Christian, ultra-liberal Europe which controls most of the power and the media. The Great Architect can still be recognized on the surface of today's Europe, but the layer which denies the God of Jesus Christ and the Ten Commandments hovers about. Those are the ones who have given Europe an overdose of freedom, which – similar to an overdose of medicine - does not cure, but poisons a person. To these people European means allowing abortions, free love, recognition of lesbian and homosexual marriage, the proclamation of gender-ideology and the free competition of wild capitalism, which leads to extra profits for the capitalists, bankruptcy for small and mid-sized business, and total poverty for the common people.
This Europe, which celebrates itself as liberal and modern, is in truth:

• A Europe of capitalists out of communists
• A Europe of ”freedom fighters” turned dictators and dictators ”concerned for democracy”
• A Europe of “moderns” preaching an ethics which is unsustainable and which went out of date 2000 years ago
• A Europe of church persecutors “worried about the freedom of the churches”
• People who are consistent in only one thing: an industrial quantity of lying and the Pharisaical deception of many.

When they assert that the Orbán government is autocratic, anti-Europe, staring into the past, and not respecting religious freedom, they are discovering their own faults, but in others and not in themselves. I have never wanted to make Viktor Orbán a saint. I know that he is a fallible human being just as we all are; he has his weaknesses and has made mistakes. Yet the charges against him remind me of the Hungarian saying, “the pot calls the kettle black.”

Representatives of the ultra-liberal and the so-called conservative camps were present at that hearing in Strassbourg broadcast by Hír TV. This was a farce, which was organized for the purpose of giving Viktor Orbán a talking-down to in public and to humiliate him. To me it seemed as if the followers of the worlds greatest dictator (Mao Tse Tung) were giving a lesson about democracy and a well-known pedophile was trying teach morality to Viktor Orbán, a father of five children all of whom were born of the same woman (his wife). Orbán was the most European person at this hearing, with slight exaggeration one might say, the only European. With incredible patience he listened silently to the frothing and shouting Daniel Cohn Bendit and his colleagues, answered the charges calmly, and then asked if as a believer in the traditional family, a patriot and believing Christian, he might remian European.

Moreover, the main charge against him is similar to the one leveled at Lot and his family four thousand years ago: their behavior wasn't “compatible with Sodom.” But the same problem presented itself to the Prophets as well: “compatibility with the Middle-East” was missing from their teaching. So, too, Christians of the first three centuries didn’t learn to live according to the etiquette of the decadent Roman Empire. One comes to think that today's Europe resembles the Roman Empire in its decline. We don't yet have people killing each other in coliseums, but there are brutal struggles for huge sums of money; the mass media, instead of catharsis, seeks to satisfy the baser instincts of the people (the demos); men and women, instead of celebrating their children, celebrate their lovers.

Europe no longer sends missionaries to the Third World because it has became a mission region itself, providing soil for missionaries from Africa, India, the Philippines, and even Indonesia. The lines Mihály Váci wrote in the sixties (from his poem “Loyal Uprising” apply today, not only to pseudo-communist Hungary but to the whole of Europe:

While a new world law smothers and clasps,
and former truths bore new fruit;
the tyrant’s reign arrives,
where there are no prophets nor messiahs.

3. I'll mention yet another weakness in your letter as my third point, namely, that you fail to consider the role of powers beyond Europe in the “Orbán-affair.” You write about Europe as if it were an independent empire that just happened to encounter some problems with one of its territories. If you believe that this is an internal European matter, then you are much mistaken. Viktor Orbán's problem is not primarily with the Union but with international big capital, the owners of which we suspect to be somewhere on New York’s Wall Street, for which reason we simply refer to them as “America.” That designation is of course wrong: the servants and lords of the dollar have neither country nor nationality. They are citizens of the cosmos, cosmopolitans in the worst sense of the word, who dream of conquering the entire world.

To do that they need money, lots and lots of money. Therefore they are not satisfied with starting wars falsely purported to “import democracy;” nor are they satisfied with purchasing doctors and pharmacists while at the same time building enormous drug-factories and maintaining control of multinational companies. They also want to make each state one of their interest taxpayers. To this end they are trying to influence free elections and to buy up individual governments. The “good government” is the one that is willing to take up loans with unfavorable conditions so that, by spending the money quickly, it can make its nation an eternal taxpaying colony. This government need not fear to be called dictatorial; it can calmly shoot peaceful demonstrators in the eyes, exclude its own people from their celebrations, erect a fence around the Parliament, and even falsify official documents. Yet such a government will remain “European” and “Democratic.” The only time they get a rap on the head is when they lead their nation to the brink of bankruptcy.

A different set of rules applies to the “bad government,” which tries to break out of the debt trap. That kind of government is downgraded even when the budget deficit would not indicate this. Its Prime Minister is compared to Hitler and Stalin; he is called a gypsy, then a gypsy-hater even if he happens to disband the groups known for their anti-gypsy activities, or if he is the one sending the only gypsy woman to the European Parliament. It doesn't matter if he extends support to Jewish churches; it doesn’t matter that he has Jewish friends, naturally he can’t escape the charge of “anti-Semitic.”

The owners of international big capital are especially angry at Viktor Orbán because he has introduced many measures against big business (introducing a tax on banks, curtailing the privileges of multinational companies) that many other countries have already adopted or are intending to adopt. That's why they have organized the comprehensive campaign which we are witnessing today. I would like to emphasize again that this series of actions is being orchestrated out of America by people with money who cannot even be called Americans.

And this is true even if, when compared to the American players (Hillary Clinton, Charles Gati, George Soros), the European figures appear to be in the majority. Big capital has cleverly taken advantage of the division in Europe, making use of office holders in the European Committee (the Union’s government) and the European Parliament, especially those who are Viktor Orbán’s ideological opponents. Of course they also use representatives of the Hungarian opposition as well, who are extremely bothered by the right’s two-third majority in Parliament.
Representatives of the Union know well that the suffocating arms of international big capital also threaten Europe, but they cooperate with it out of material interests, fear, or for ideological reasons. This situation is by no means new. Two thousand years ago the High Council cooperated in the same way with the hated Pontius Pilate. Today, too, Pilate is applauded by every pale-faced Scribe and Pharisee. And of course the false witnesses are not missing either, those whose very way of life is a lie; and since a large part of the media is theirs, they can even get a part of the conservative media to cry out “Crucify him!” about Viktor Orbán and about the Hungarians who are considered an “inferior race” (Ákos Kertész), or even worse “a people of rats.” (This last reference comes from the Nobel Prize winning author Imre Kertész).

Like every country, even Union has certain regulations which, to be frank, no one can fully adhere to. Yet these regulations are suited perfectly for harassing those (and only those!) governments which don’t “fall into line.” The use of double standards is a common practice of the ultra-liberal world. But neither are Bolshevik methods missing - as I referred to earlier. “If you want to steal, cry thief!” Blame others for your own faults, that way you can direct attention away from yourself.

There is a contract in force with Hungary that the IMF (International Monetary Fund) foisted on the Soviet-controlled communist government of Hungary (in 1982) when it was in dire need of funds. This contract stipulates that properties of the IMF in Hungary are above any regulation or control, that no legal procedure can be initiated in either a Hungarian or international court of law against IMF companies, their employees, or even their tenants.

What is this if not an ordinary dictatorship? It's part of the supra-national, wild capitalist, ultra-liberal dictatorship, which is derived directly from the tyranny of Hitler or Stalin. Perhaps you have not heard this, but we know it; in Hungary the cruelest communists were former fascists. Similarly we see today that the richest capitalists were former communists, and they are the ones most loudly concerned for democracy in Hungary. Ferenc Gyurcsány, László Kovács, José Manuel Barroso, Daniel Cohn-Bendit; every one of them was a believer of the red dictatorship, and now they “worry about democracy” as the minions of the wild capitalist dictatorship.

Adolf Hitler wanted to unite all Germans under his world empire. “Proletariat of the World, Unite!” – this was Stalin’s motto, who also dreamed of conquering the world. “Big Capital of the World, Unite into Cartels!” This is the motto of the lords of international big capital who steal left and right, as David C. Korten described in his 1995 book titled When Corporations Rule the World.

The means are different but the goal and the spirit is the same. No dictatorship tolerates criticism, even less when people step out of line. Yet, somehow in the end they all collapse. The third type of dictatorship described above is the subject of a poem titled “A New Word on Tyranny,” which I'm attaching to my letter. I specifically call your attention to the last sections containing a serious warning for all of us: if we unwittingly accept the misleading propaganda of a dictatorship, we ourselves become links in the chain; we ourselves become part of tyranny.

From that may the Holy Spirit save us – who alone can deliver the world and our beloved Europe from the ultra-liberal wild capitalist dictatorship, and may Christian Europe emerge from the thick layer of ashes where it still hides.
Respectful greetings and love to you:
Veszprém, 23 February, 2012.
Dr. Márfi Gyula
Archbishop of Veszprém http://www.evangelikus.hu/panorama/david-baer-nyilt-levele/marfi-gyula-katolikus-ersek-levelenek-angol-forditasat-is-elolvashatjak-honlapunkon

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